The only woman who ever truly loved you ([info]eldena) wrote,
@ 2009-02-25 14:38:00
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Current mood: what is wrong with my mind
Entry tags:dreams

Clear head
I keep saying that I don't think I'll ever be able to have a lucid dream because every now and then I'll already be aware that I'm dreaming, and that idea always just fits in smoothly. And because my subconscious pulls some bizarre stuff with the "fourth wall" sometimes. I mentioned some entries back a dream with some dialogue that made direct reference to it all being a dream; I mentioned a while before that the time I woke up just to end a dream character's existence out of spite; I didn't post regarding the more recent dream I had that was actively trying to trick me into waking up early which I only foiled by figuring out that I must still be asleep. Which I realize makes no sense, but that's what happened.

So my dreams have a weird relationship with reality.

It's possible that I overestimated myself, or underestimated myself, because I've had a couple dreams now that I certainly thought were lucid at the time. ...The problem is that I really wouldn't put a normal dream about lucid dreaming past myself, so it's hard to be sure. In terms of lucidity, neither of them were very good; I had a hard time getting away from dream logic, and also getting the dream to actually do what I wanted.

The first time, one of my first thoughts was along the lines of "Ha, and I thought I'd never lucid dream."

I forget the context leading up to it, but I ended up on the bus, heading back to high school, which I didn't want to do any more than I ever had in real life, and I kinda went "Oh godammit this is lame, even in dreams haven't I graduated by now? ...Oh HEY, that's TRUE, this is totally all wrong." (Note again the casual reference to it being a dream before the actual realization. Sigh.) I then proceeded to feel very, very weird. The awareness was quite difficult to hold onto, though, and I had to remind myself a few times of the train of thought that had led me to it. Thus, things stayed vague and dreamlike and weird. So here's what I accomplished with my newfound power:

  • As mentioned, I was on a bus when I realized I was dreaming, and either I was too lazy to go to the door or there wasn't one, or something. My first idea was to trace a circle on the window with my finger and have it cut the glass. It didn't work. :(

  • I tried flying some because that's what people do when they lucid dream, right? Also, I've observed in the past that whenever flying comes up in dreams, I tend to be pretty bad at it, so I figured I may as well experiment a bit. It was particularly hard this time, however. As I've found that it tends to work better when I have a prop, I turned some random object into a broomstick for comparison, which was pretty cool; but that only helped a little. Maybe I really rely on the role, more than any prop or not.

  • Later, I grew a tail. I like tails, but that's still kind of weird, me. I guess I was thinking it would be interesting to feel something like that, more convincingly physically than I ever could in real life for obvious reasons. But in practice I just tended to forget about it.

  • Then I got bored and decided to wake up. I'm pretty sure that, instead, I actually just went back to normal dreaming.
The second time I don't remember any particular circumstances leading up to it, which is good. And my initial thought was "Oh good, I'm lucid again, I can make a better run of it this time." However, I had even fewer ideas this time around... so I once again ended up flying because that's just what you do. I figured that using something to launch myself upwards could help, which it did, but I still ended up having to generate a broom out of nowhere. I really need to stop defaulting to those; these days they're apt to turn my dreams into fanfiction, or at least cosplay. If I can remember, I'd like to try a carpet.

Anyway, I then realized that I also didn't have anywhere to fly to, and also steering was being annoying, so I ended up just sort of heading out into the Illinois countryside indefinitely. Yay. That one was a nap, though, so I didn't have time to do much anyway. In fact, just before waking up I managed to dream a realistic simulation of being gradually woken up, which was what inspired me to wake up. That was very confusing, by the way. I guess my brain had to remind me that it can still completely screw with me.

In conclusion: subconscious 5 or so, conscious 0.



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[info]comicsan
2009-02-26 08:31 am UTC (link)
Man, the rare occasions I've had lucid dreams, I've never thought to actually do something with it. There's just always a 'what the heck is going on this is a dream why is this happening?' feeling. Similarly had a dream where I went to middle school - only I specifically remembered that the day before was the last day of school and THERE ISN'T SCHOOL TODAY OH CRAP THIS IS A DREAM- and then people started ganging up on me and I ended up having a pretty girl kiss... wall me but it felt wrong because I knew it was a dream :(

Though I've had a few dreams where I am doing AWESOME STUFF and it feels ABSOLUTELY REAL but I don't realize it's a dream at all, and it usually messes with me when I wake up. I also have NEVER FLOWN but I have done some incredible jumping- think wire-fu martial arts movie, without the wires, though those are always because I'm being chased by similarly-yet-not-as-skilled people, usually Agents from the Matrix.

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[info]eldena
2009-02-26 04:18 pm UTC (link)
A long time ago, I once had a dream where, in the midst of crazy stuff happening, there was a moment of clarity when I realized this is not a dream holy shit.

...Sigh.

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[info]hyuga
2009-03-28 03:17 pm UTC (link)
Hey, so, I sent you a PM through livejournal, since I wasn't sure how else to reach you. But maybe you don't get notified about them or something. I was just wondering, if it wouldn't be too skeevy to ask, if you'd be available to meet up sometime in the next week ^^;

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[info]eldena
2009-03-30 04:37 pm UTC (link)
Oh snap this. Well, my answer is a resounding maybe! If I didn't take too long actually getting to you in the first place. What kind of scenario did you have in mind?

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[info]hyuga
2009-03-30 05:54 pm UTC (link)
Yeeahh...I kinda wondered if I'd ever get through to you considering how you seem to disappear from the internet for lengthy periods of time.

Probably should've asked sooner but I wasn't even sure if I'd be going on this trip until the last minute.

So, I don't know exactly where about you live or work. But I'd just like to meet you in person, so I was thinking we could meet for lunch or dinner or somesuch at a time and place of your convenience. My schedule is completely flexible since I'm at a convention of nerds who are doing nothing but spending days at a time sitting in a room and programming. So I can come and go as I please.

I'll send you my phone number in another PM if you want to try to do something. I'll be here until Thursday afternoon.

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[info]eldena
2009-03-30 09:40 pm UTC (link)
Kay, got that. And responding here anyway out of laziness. ¦D The main thing is that I dunno about you, but I have fairly limited transportation since I can't drive (also because I fail at knowing where anything is in this city) so it depends a lot on where you are and where we'd want to go. Might not be bad for me to get out a bit too, though. And at least it's gotten a bit warmer out; I'm sick of the cold by now.

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[info]hyuga
2009-03-30 09:48 pm UTC (link)
Weather's been pretty decent since it snowed on Saturday. I was out earlier today with no more than a sweatshirt on (and, you know, pants and stuff).

I guess the main question is where about do you live? I can probably get just about anywhere, but the main concern is just how conveniently.

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[info]eldena
2009-03-30 10:38 pm UTC (link)
Dammit LJ.

Anyway: wait, let's see, PyCon you said? Up in Rosemont according to the website? That's the same Hyatt as ACen uses, and I don't know the other building offhand but it's evidently nearby. (The google map they link to places it in the middle of a street. Smooth.) If you're around there I can do that. Still no clue where we'd go, tho'!

Edited at 2009-03-30 10:43 pm UTC

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[info]hyuga
2009-03-30 10:54 pm UTC (link)
Wow, you really don't get out much do you? :P In fairness, it's true that there's not much around here.

Yeah, if worse comes to worse I can borrow a car or take a taxi. But if you can get to the Hyatt easily enough that could work. If you come here I'll buy you dinner or something--it wouldn't come out of my pocket since I have HUEG per-diem from work that I'm barely using since the convention serves us breakfast, lunch, and dinner (they realize that if they don't feed the geeks they might forget to eat).

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[info]eldena
2009-03-30 11:05 pm UTC (link)
I really don't. ¦D; More these days than ever. No job and I've fallen way out of touch with all my local friends, even aside the ones who've moved away... alas.

And free food is the best food, as long as it's free for all parties equally. Hmm... I dunno when's a good time then; my schedule's pretty open too, aside from the endless futile employment search and RP-related plans. Tomorrow sounds rainy. ...Oh right, I should send you my number too. I forget I have a cell now.

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[info]hyuga
2009-03-30 11:17 pm UTC (link)
Sounds good, or maybe not depending on your perspective--I wasn't sure whether or not you ever found a job. Yay economy! Any time is good, even tonight if you want. If tomorrow sucks too much then Wednesday.

Doesn't necessarily have to be dinner either. Lunch is fine too if that works better time-wise or weather-wise. How would you be getting here?

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[info]eldena
2009-03-30 11:26 pm UTC (link)
Short notice plans are lame, so Wednesday sounds good to me, as does lunch rather than dinner. I'd be taking the L, blue line; it's a pretty straightforward trip for me since I've got a stop near my house.

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[info]hyuga
2009-03-30 11:38 pm UTC (link)
Okay, perfect. Let me know when you plan to come over and I'll meet you at the station.

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[info]eldena
2009-03-30 11:47 pm UTC (link)
If it's lunch, noon-ish would make sense, but then places would be busier. Well, somewhere in the vicinity, I suppose; later's easier than earlier, but too much later isn't good either.

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[info]hyuga
2009-03-31 12:14 am UTC (link)
How about we plan on one-ish then? Either way, once you're close give me a call--don't be shy :P It'll take me about 15 minutes to shut down and pack up.

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[info]hyuga
2009-04-01 02:12 am UTC (link)
So are we still on for lunch tomorrow, I guess sometime between 12 and 1?

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[info]eldena
2009-04-01 02:16 am UTC (link)
Aye aye! Probably closer to 1 depending how the train feels like going. But yeah, I'll still call you when I'm getting close.

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